NSM Santisima Trinidad

June 1 2015
During the night 24 Oct 1805, after a harsh battle, the NSM Santisima Trinidad was towed by the two English frigates HMS Naiad and HMS Phoebe. Due to the very bad conditions of the hull and the gale declared on 21th, she sunk anywhere in front of Trafalgar cape (SW Spain). The location of the wreck as been ignored during the last 200 years, but 2 years ago, a reseach group from the University of Cadiz (UCA), located the ship. The find has been confirmed by ROVs and side scanning means by a Spanish Navy Hidrographic ship. Unfortunatelly, as it seems to happen always at this land, the total lack of any agreement between the involved parts, is delaying "sine die" the exploration and study of the wreck. This exploration is a "hope" and this writing is intended to be a a kind of "kick" for them. Me, and some others, are trying to activate the issue, that from any point of view is of the mayor interest. Read background
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June 1 2015

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Preparation Stage

Lectures Launch

The press note, not translated as I haven't the author's permission, speaks about the project for refloating and exhibition of the NSM Santisima Trinidad, backed up by the University.

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ion 3 comments

Refloating!? Wow, this is a huge undertaking! Has this group attempted such a thing before?

ion

Yes Erika. Some of the Research Group members have alredy worked on that kind of things.
My personal opinion is not for refloating, as the wreck is a "War Grave".
I think actual technology allows for building a completly accurate replica that would be cheaper and less controversial regarding Legal and moral concerns.

Hay alguna novedad en este tema Ion?

Conferences about the Ship and the wreck start next 28th.

Hopefully things could start moving ...

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ion 0 comments

Hi all ¡¡
The 3D model at the pic does not belong to the Trinidad, but to another ship of the line, 74 guns class, named Montañes (translated ---> Highlander).
The Stma. Trinidad was a four decked ship of the line, the only one ever.
She was built by the Mullan family by appointment of Jorge Juan and Santacilla.
At la Habana, a model of the Trinidad has been recently built. It has been paid by the "Friends of the Santisima Trinidad" from Canada.
Unfortunately I think, that model is not accurate. Mathew Mullan, the master architect, died before finishing the works. Hence the original works plan, was changed and some aspects of the design updated.
After the seatrials and first voyage across the Atlantic, many changes were also made at Cadiz.
So many changes and so many battles with so many damages and modifications, make quite difficult to track the ship construction history.
For us, is a very important ship, may be the most important together with the Nao Sta. Maria. Her sinking marks the end of the Spanish power at sea.
The delays come from disagreements between the University, the Archeological Studies Center and the Navy.
I belong to the University group, have been in the program for 7 years, and .............. I think its a pitty that a find like this, still remains almost kept secret and that nothing is being done due to extrange politics that I cannot understand.
I hope to "push" a little bit during a conferences cycle that will take place late January at Cadiz.
Thanks all

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ion 2 comments

Sorry to hear that. Keep pushing, it is worth it.

ion

Things look to start moving.

Expedition Background

As the wreck has been already located, our main goals are:
Research of the design and building procedures followed for the construction of the NSM Santisima Trinidad.
As no original drawings and only partial information and some pictures have been conserved (She was built at La Habana, Cuba), our main goal is the study of her design and building.
As a first stage, we are intended to build an accurate 3D model of her, from the Naval Architectural point of view, rather than from the artistic one, upon which all models until today are based.
After that, what seems to be the more complex and expensive part of the program, would be to build a real replica of the ship as she was during her last years.

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ion 6 comments

What an amazing find! Its unfortunate that it sometimes things can be held up due to difficulties brought on by peoples disagreement. I'm interested in the tools you'll be using to develop your 3D model of the NSM Santisima Trinidad. What type of ship was it? What was its role?

Really interesting! I'm also eager to hear your plans for tools for 3D models.

Oh man, I super excited about this wreck. This is fantastic! I just found an interesting article about the U of Cadiz vessel and sonar system: bit.ly/17ngtX7

I'm also going to see if any of my buddies in Cuba can go into the maritime archives and dig up any old documents from construction days in Havana!

This expedition is stupendous, I hope your influence encourages the researchers to share the story!

ion

Hi all ¡¡
The 3D model at the pic does not belong to the Trinidad, but to another ship of the line, 74 guns class, named Montañes (translated ---> Highlander).
The Stma. Trinidad was a four decked ship of the line, the only one ever.
She was built by the Mullan brothers by appointment of Jorge Juan and Santacilla.
At la Habana, a model of the Trinidad has been recently built. It has been paid by the "Friends of the Santisima Trinidad" from Canada.
Unfortunately I think, that model is not accurate. Mathew Mullan, the master architect, died before finishing the works. Hence the original works plan, was changed and some aspects of the design updated.
After the seatrials and first voyage across the Atlantic, many changes were also made at Cadiz.
So many changes and so many battles with so many damages and modifications, make quite difficult to track the ship construction history.
For us, is a very important ship, may be the most important together with the Nao Sta. Maria. Her sinking marks the end of the Spanish power at sea.
The delays come from disagreements between the University, the Archeological Studies Center and the Navy.
I belong to the University group, have been in the program for 7 years, and .............. I think its a pitty that a find like this, still remains almost kept secret and that nothing is being done due to extrange politics that I cannot understand.
I hope to "push" a little bit during a conferences cycle that will take place late January at Cadiz.
Thanks all

I'm having a great time talking about this wreck with some friends of mine, this is all wonderful information! Would you put your last comment up as a post? It might be a little easier for more explorers to see up there. Cool!

ion

Hi Erika:
Post done ¡¡ :-)

May I know about that information you got ? One never knows ...

Regards